{ "guild": { "id": "1361349522684510449", "name": "wafer.space Community", "iconUrl": "2026-06_media/fb143eaa45770cbb40493d09b625e98b-09FD1.png" }, "channel": { "id": "1409664140196188251", "type": "GuildTextChat", "categoryId": "1409664731760955403", "category": "\uD83C\uDFD7️ - Designing", "name": "digital", "topic": null }, "dateRange": { "after": "2026-05-31T23:59:59.999+00:00", "before": "2026-07-01T00:00:00+00:00" }, "exportedAt": "2026-06-16T17:23:27.6460829+00:00", "messages": [ { "id": "1511801096606187674", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-03T18:37:49.337+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Having an inverter at the output of a logic cell (buffering the internal node) is almost a given, right?\nSo any custom gates in any static logic family I have to draw I should expect to use an inverter as an output buffer after the actual gate itself, right?", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1511804973686456542", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-03T18:53:13.705+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Sometimes you'll find `_0` variants of gates where it's directly the internal output but yeah that's rate and not that useful for general P&R where you'd almost always have an inverter at the output ... except if the cell in question is an inverter or a delay cell .", "author": { "id": "596068704471482370", "name": "246tnt", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "tnt", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/88d17af9d19ab43565b0c46751ef7d12-DFEE5.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "1184281983791136778", "name": "ferrisCatOwO", "code": "ferrisCatOwO", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-06_media/1184281983791136778-8D756.png" }, "count": 1, "users": [ { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1512006127766999142", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-06-04T08:12:32.575+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "No. CMOS standard cells have NAND2 and AOI amd OAI cells that don't have inverter at the end and these cells will be used quite a lot in the synthesized netlist.", "author": { "id": "728516105680846892", "name": "chips4makers", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Chips4Makers aka Staf Verhaegen", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/2649a6faac7843086b3d82b1d8f657a3-81998.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1511801096606187674", "channelId": "1409664140196188251", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1513203614556885073", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T15:30:55.674+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "I just noticed the SRAM behavioral model has timing constraints (55.6 ns, ~18MHz). Do we know if this is a real limit of the SRAM, or just a quirk of the fab's sram model?", "author": { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1513277466205098064", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T20:24:23.279+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "That seems close to the 1.8V figures on https://gf180mcu-pdk.readthedocs.io/en/latest/IPs/SRAM/gf180mcu_fd_ip_sram/cells/gf180mcu_fd_ip_sram__sram512x8m8wm1/gf180mcu_fd_ip_sram__sram512x8m8wm1.html", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1513203614556885073", "channelId": "1409664140196188251", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1513277546849112236", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T20:24:42.506+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "So I assume you can safely ignore at 5V or 3v3", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1513281229947142306", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T20:39:20.625+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "aha good catch! Didnt realize the docs had those tables for the sram \uD83D\uDC4D", "author": { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [ { "id": "", "name": "\uD83D\uDC4D", "code": "thumbsup", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-06_media/1f44d-27259.svg" } ] }, { "id": "1513281248078856233", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T20:39:24.948+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "thanks!", "author": { "id": "384390069412429834", "name": "polyfractal", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "BreakingTaps", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/8d8c1d8b8ad51d6cdb1a47512c39b297-42908.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1513300372469448744", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-07T21:55:24.558+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Does anyone have t_FO4 on hand by chance?", "author": { "id": "262706220073222144", "name": "namibj", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "namibj", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/f885abc0dddd0a33e4d4991b3c99091d-7ACD2.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1514906558050472026", "type": "Default", "timestamp": "2026-06-12T08:17:49.042+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "@RebelMike @Leo Moser (mole99) Overdue update to my SCL: non-inverting latches. So you can use those now and drop any inverters you had to place in your design.\nAlways remember to gate-level simulate, there should be no more missing cell models now.", "author": { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [ { "emoji": { "id": "", "name": "\uD83C\uDF89", "code": "tada", "isAnimated": false, "imageUrl": "2026-06_media/1f389-5C738.svg" }, "count": 2, "users": [ { "id": "323371864074485771", "name": "mole99", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Leo Moser (mole99)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/3c7c17f3225f6e56f4dccd83f14383f2-73F83.png" }, { "id": "543162393413287956", "name": "h.tamas", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "htamas", "color": null, "isBot": false, "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/1-B2132.png" } ] } ], "mentions": [ { "id": "323371864074485771", "name": "mole99", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Leo Moser (mole99)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 1 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/3c7c17f3225f6e56f4dccd83f14383f2-73F83.png" }, { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" } ], "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1514907040168939620", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-06-12T08:19:43.988+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Awesome, thank you!", "author": { "id": "691780627338625077", "name": "rebelmike", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "RebelMike", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/49aaff687e56f04e7bbdedf0077bab75-7DDB4.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1514906558050472026", "channelId": "1409664140196188251", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] }, { "id": "1514912033764544625", "type": "Reply", "timestamp": "2026-06-12T08:39:34.554+00:00", "timestampEdited": null, "callEndedTimestamp": null, "isPinned": false, "content": "Opened an open_pdks PR to update the hash: https://github.com/RTimothyEdwards/open_pdks/pull/525", "author": { "id": "323371864074485771", "name": "mole99", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Leo Moser (mole99)", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [ { "id": "1423020172595298314", "name": "Mod", "color": null, "position": 1 } ], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/3c7c17f3225f6e56f4dccd83f14383f2-73F83.png" }, "attachments": [], "embeds": [], "stickers": [], "reactions": [], "mentions": [ { "id": "220639106915368960", "name": "tholin", "discriminator": "0000", "nickname": "Tholin", "color": null, "isBot": false, "roles": [], "avatarUrl": "2026-06_media/edae5aadf146133e0448bfb1f0fa91c4-62B19.png" } ], "reference": { "messageId": "1514906558050472026", "channelId": "1409664140196188251", "guildId": "1361349522684510449" }, "inlineEmojis": [] } ], "messageCount": 12 }